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Poster: guyzilla Date: Jul 21, 2009 10:18pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Making sure what's PD

This list is not for what I want to put up, it's for what I've already put up. Considering the fact that I've made two lists that had nothing that was safe to upload, I started thinking about the stuff I put up a month and a half ago. I checked with USCO, but I didn't check with the forum, and now I have some doubts whether the films are all PD. I'm posting the links to the movies in question, and the list is a long one, but I'd like to find out what's copyright so I can remove it. Video Cellar, your knowledge and input would be greatly appreciated. Here's the list:

I know the list is long, but if any of these are copyright, I want to remove them as soon as possible.

This post was modified by guyzilla on 2009-07-22 05:18:21

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Poster: Moongleam Date: Jul 22, 2009 9:09am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Making sure what's PD

Video-Cellar posted a list here:

Here's a quick and dirty Ruby program that attempts to see what the lists have in common.

guy =
".strip.split( "\n" ).map{|s|
s.strip.sub( %r{.*/}, "" ).sub( /_?\d+/, "" ).
gsub( /[A-Z]/, ' \&' ).strip.upcase.
sub( /^THE +/, "" )

cellar = "
All The Kind Strangers 1974 Stacey Keach
Ape Man, The 1943 Bela Lugosi
Ape, The 1940 Boris Karloff
Atom Age Vampire 1960 Alberto Lupo
Attack of the Giant Leeches 1959 Ken Clark
Beast From Haunted Cave 1959 Micheal Forest
Beast of the Yellow Night 1971 John Ashley
Beast of Yucca Flats, The 1961 Tor Johnson
Black Dragons 1942 Bela Lugosi
Blancheville Monster, The 1963 Gerard Tichy
Blood Creature/Terror is a Man 1959 Francis Lederer
Blood Tide 1982 James Earl Jones
Bloodlust! 1961 Robert Reed
Bloody Brood, The 1959 Peter Falk
Bloody Pit of Horror, The 1965 Mickey Hargitay
Bowery at Midnight 1942 Bela Lugosi
Bride of the Gorilla 1951 Bela Lugosi
Bucket of Blood, A 1959 Dick Miller
Cabinet of Dr Caligari, The 1920 Conrad Veidt
Carnival of Souls 1962 Candace Hilligoss
Castle of Blood 1964 Barbara Steele
Cathy's Curse 1977 Alan Scarfe
Corpse Vanishes, The 1942 Bela Lugosi
Creature From The Haunted Sea 1961 Antony Carbone
Crimes at the Dark House 1940 Tod Slaughter
Crimes of Stephen Hawke, The 1936 Tod Slaughter
Crypt of the Living Dead 1973 Andrew Prine
Curse of the Headless Horseman 1974 Ultra Violet
Dark Eyes of London, The/Human Monster 1940 Bela Lugosi
Dead Eyes of London 1961 Klaus Kinski
Dead Men Walk 1943 George Zucco
Death at Love House 1976 Robert Wagner
Dementia 13 1963 William Campbell
Demon, The 1979 Cameron Mitchell
Demons of Ludlow, The 1983 Paul Von Hausen
Devil Bat, The 1940 Bela Lugosi
Devil Monster 1946 Barry Norton
Devil's Daughter, The 1946 Fernand Ledoux
Devil's Hand 1962 Robert Alda
Devil's Messenger, The 1961 Lon Chaney, Jr
Devil's Partner, The 1962 Ed Nelson
Devil's Party, The 1938 Victor McLaglen
Dominique is Dead 1978 Cliff Robertson
Don't Look in the Basement 1973 Bill McGhee
Doomsday Machine, The 1972 Bobby Van
Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde 1920 John Barrymore
Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde (CLIMAX! Telemovie) 1955 Cedric Hardwicke
Driller Killer 1979 Abel Ferrara
Drive in Massacre 1976 Jake Barnes
End of the World, The 1977 Christopher Lee
Eternal Evil 1985 Karen Black
Face at the Window 1939 Todd Slaughter
Fog Island 1945 George Zucco
Funeral Home 1980 Kate Hawtrey
Ghost Ship 1952 Hazel Court
Ghost Walks, The 1931 Jack Holt
Ghost, The 1963 Barbara Steele
Golem, The 1920 Paul Wegener
Good Against Evil 1977 Kim Cattrall
Grave of the Vampire 1974 Michael Pataki
Horror Maniacs 1948 Tod Slaughter
Haunted Ranch 1943 John King
Haunts 1977 May Britt
Head, The 1959 Horst Frank
Horror Express 1973 Christopher Lee
Horror Hotel 1960 Christopher Lee
Horror of the Zombies 1974 Jack Taylor
Horrors of Spider Island1960 Harold Maresch
House of Exorcism, The 1973 Alida Valli
House of the Dead 1978 John Ericson
House of the Living Dead1973 Mark Burns
House on Haunted Hill 1959 Vincent Price
Hunchback of Notre Dame, The 1923 Lon Chaney
I Bury The Living 1958 Richard Boone
I Eat Your Skin 1964 William Joyce
Invisible Ghost, The 1941 Bela Lugosi
Invisible Killer, The 1939 Grace Bradley
Invitation to Hell 1982 Becky Simpson
Killer Shrews 1959 James Best
King of the Zombies 1941 Dick Purcell
Lady Frankenstein 1971 Joseph Cotton
Last Man on Earth 1964 Vincent Price
Legacy of Blood 1971 Rodolfo Acosta
Legend of Big Foot, The 1979 Stafford Morgan
Long Hair of Death, The 1964 Barbara Steele
Lucifer Complex, The 1978 Robert Vaughn
Mad Monster, The 1942 George Zucco
Mama Dracula 1980 Louise Fletcher
Man in the Attic 1953 Jack Palance
Maniac 1934 William Woods
Manos: The Hands of Fate 1966 Tom Neyman
Manster, The 1962 Peter Dyneley
Medusa 1973 George Hamilton
Memorial Valley Massacre 1988 Cameron Mitchell
Messiah of Evil 1973 Michael Greer
Midnight Shadow 1939 France Redd
Monster Maker, The 1944 J Carrol Naish
Monster Walks, The 1932 Rex Lease
Moonstone, The 1934 David Manners
Most Dangerous Game, The 1932 Fay Wray
Never Too Late 1937 Tod Slaughter
Night Fright 1967 John Agar
Night of Bloody Horror 1974 Gerard McRaney
Night of the Blood Beast 1958 John Baer
Night of the Living Dead 1968 Duane Jones
Nightmare Castle 1965 Barbara Steele
Nosferatu 1922 Max Schreck
One Frightened Night 1935 Regis Toomey
Penalty, The 1923 Lon Chaney
Phantom Creeps, The 1939 Bela Lugosi
Phantom Fiend, The 1932 Ivor Novello
Phantom of the Opera, The 1925 Lon Chaney
Rattlers 1976 Sam Chew Jr
Revolt of the Zombies 1936 Dean Jagger
Ring of Terror 1962 George E Mather
Sadist, The 1963 Arch Hall Jr
Savage Weekend 1979 David Gale
Scared To Death 1947 Bela Lugosi
Scream Bloody Murder 1973 Fred Holbert
Scream of the Wolf 1974 Peter Graves
Screaming Skull 1958 John Hudson
Seven Doors To Death 1944 George Meeker
She Beast, The 1966 Barbara Steele
She Gods of Shark Reef 1958 Bill Cord
Shock, The 1923 Lon Chaney
Silent Night, Bloody Night 1974 John Carradine
Sisters of Death 1977 Arthur Franz
Slashed Dreams 1975 Peter Hooten
Snake People, The 1971 Boris Karloff
Sound of Horror 1964 James Philbrook
Spider's Venom 1971 Simon Brent
Spooks Run Wild 1941 Bela Lugosi
Svengali 1931 John Barrymore
Sweeney Todd 1936 Tod Slaughter
Tales of Frankenstien 1958 Anton Diffring
Teenage Zombies 1959 Don Sullivan
Terror Creatures from the Grave 1965 Barbara Steele
Terror, The 1938 Bernard Lee
Terror, The 1963 Boris Karloff
They 1974 Paul Bentzen
Thirsty Dead, The 1974 Jennifer Billingsly
Ticket of Leave Man 1937 Tod Slaughter
Tormented 1960 Richard Carlson
Track of the Moon Beast 1976 Chase Cordell
Vampire Bat 1933 Lionel Atwill
Vampire's Night Orgy 1973 Jack Taylor
Voodoo Black Exorcist 1973 Aldo Sombrell
Wasp Woman, The 1960 Susan Cabot
Werewolf in a Girls Dorm 1961 Carl Schell
Werewolf of Washington, The 1973 Dean Stockwell
Whip and the Body, The 1963 Christopher Lee
White Zombie 1932 Bela Lugosi
Alpha Incident 1977 Ralph Meeker
Amazing Transparent Man, The 1960 Marguerite Chapman
Assignment Outer Space 1961 Rik Van Nutter
Astral Factor, The 1976 Stephanie Powers
Atomic Brain, The 1964 Marjorie Eaton
Battle Beyond the Sun 1963 Ivan Pereverzev
Battle of the Worlds 1961 Claude Rains
Brain Machine, The 1977 James Best
Brain That Wouldn't Die 1962 Jason Evers
Cosmos: War of the Planets 1977 John Richardson
Creature of Destruction 1967 Les Tremayne
Curse of the Swamp Creature 1966 John Agar
Day the Sky Exploded 1958 Fiorella Mari
Disappearance of Flight 412, The 1975 Glen Ford
Eegah 1962 Arch Hall Jr
Eye Creatures, The 1965 John Ashley
Fantastic Planet 1973 Jennifer Drake
First Spaceship on Venus 1960 Yoko Tani
Galaxy Invader, The 1985 Richard Ruxton
Gamera The Invincible 1966 Brian Donlevy
Giant Gila Monster, The 1959 Don Sullivan
In The Year 2889 1967 Paul Peterson
Incredible Petrified World, The 1957 John Carradine
Indestructible Man 1956 Lon Chaney, Jr
Journey to the Center of Time 1967 Scott Brady
Journey to the Seventh Planet 1962 John Agar
Killers From Space 1954 Peter Graves
Last Man on Earth, The 1964 Vincent Price
Phantom From 10,000 Leagues, The 1956 Kent Taylor
Phantom From Space 1953 Ted Cooper
Phantom Planet, The 1961 Dean Fredericks
Planet Outlaws 1953 Buster Crabbe
Prisoners of the Lost Universe 1983 Richard Hatch
Purple Death From Outer Space 1966 Buster Crabbe
Robot Pilot 1941 Forrest Tucker
Rocky Jones, Space Ranger: Crash of the Moons 1954 Richard Crane
Rocky Jones, Space Ranger: Menace from Outer Space 1956 Richard Crane
Santa Claus Conquers the Martians 1964 John Call
Teenagers From Outer Space 1959 David Love
They Came From Beyond Space 1967 Michael Gough
UFO: Target Earth 1974 Nick Plakias
Unknown World 1951 Bruce Kellog
Voyage to the Planet of Prehistoric Women 1968 Mamie Van Doran
Voyage to the Prehistoric Planet 1965 Basil Rathbone
War of the Robots 1978 Antonio Sabato
Zontar the Thing From Venus 1966 John Agar
".strip.split( "\n" ).map{|s|
s.strip.sub( /\d{4}.*$/, "" ).sub( /[,']/, "" ).
strip.upcase.sub( /,? +THE$/, "" )

puts guy & cellar

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Poster: Video-Cellar Date: Jul 23, 2009 5:54pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Making sure what's PD

I may have to delete that list. Too much of it is out of date.

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Poster: guyzilla Date: Jul 23, 2009 1:04am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Making sure what's PD

Thank you, Moongleam, your work shows that at least some of the files are ok. That's a big help. If someone has more info on the rest, please speak up because on one hand I don't want to leave anything up if it's copyright, and on the other hand I don't want to take anything down if it's PD. Meanwhile, your comparison makes for a good start and I will use it as a reference when I start the clean-up. Thanks again.
Video Cellar, I know I'm asking a lot, so what do you think?

This post was modified by guyzilla on 2009-07-23 08:04:25

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Poster: Jungle Jane Date: Jul 24, 2009 8:33am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Making sure what's PD

You're doing a great job. You've shared some really nice little gems and I for one really appreciate them.

You've made a few mistakes but you have been honest and responsible about them, that is also greatly appreciated and reflects well on you and the image of the IA and what it stands for.

I just wanted to say thank you for the time and the effort and don't get discouraged.

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Poster: guyzilla Date: Jul 24, 2009 10:44am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Making sure what's PD

Not to worry, I'm not getting discouraged in the least. If any thing, these bumps in the road just make for good learning experiences. I just have to curb my enthusiasm a little bit and not get in such a rush to see how many movies I can put up. I still have lots of material to go through. How good the movies are is for the viewer to decide and the picture quality will vary a bit but I have so many of them that there will be enough to keep me busy for the next year or so. Expect to see more contributions from me here and there for some time to come.

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Poster: Video-Cellar Date: Jul 23, 2009 9:46pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Making sure what's PD

These films are OK beacuse the are first published in the USA without notice (pre 1978) or lack renewal (pre 1964 films)

Below Titles are copyright:
These ones fall under GATT/URAA restoration of foreign works

These are US films renewed by their copyright owners

This film was originally released with a valid copyright notice

This post was modified by Video-Cellar on 2009-07-24 04:46:28

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Poster: guyzilla Date: Jul 23, 2009 10:37pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Making sure what's PD

Thanks very much for your informative response, Video Cellar. You've helped me pull my fat out of the fire again. I've gone through and deleted the files on all the copyrighted films you listed. I'll put up a "please remove" post later but I imagine the pages will remain up until they get a new - whatever Twainbough's job title was. And thank you, Cosmicola, for your question of "Dungeon Of Harrow". I've left that one up. As far as the copyright-vs-public-domain issue, I guess I wasn't as knowledgeable as I thought I was. From now on I'll slow down and check here before I go ahead and put up any more movies and avoid another scene like this. Should I put this in practice for the trailers as well? Thanks again, everybody.

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Poster: cosmicola Date: Jul 23, 2009 11:22pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Making sure what's PD

Hey, while Dungeon of Harrow is no great shakes by any means, it's cheap and cheesy, and I have great memories of watching it with friends in the early 80s, doing our own MST3K treatment on it. With mass quantities of root beer and pizza, of course. And a good time was had by all. :)

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Poster: guyzilla Date: Jul 24, 2009 12:27am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Making sure what's PD

Well, it turns out a lot of stuff had to go, but at the same time a lot of stuff got to stay. At least I didn't have to remove "Invasion of the Bee Girls" since that seems to be my most popular upload. Things could have been worse.

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Poster: cosmicola Date: Jul 24, 2009 10:09am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Making sure what's PD

I'm very grateful for the Larry B films and Curse of Bigfoot/Teenagers Battle the Thing. :)

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Poster: cosmicola Date: Jul 23, 2009 9:22pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Dungeon of Harrow?

This film was produced in San Antonio, Texas USA by well-known American comic book artist, the late Pat Boyette.

(I know that the IMDB is often flaky and wrong, but old online interviews with Boyette and friends were pretty clear that this film was made in Texas.)

The rest of the films listed as copyright in the list seem to be UK productions. Is it certain that Dungeon of Harrow, a US film, is copyright under the GATT/URAA "restoration of foreign works"?

Just asking...

This post was modified by cosmicola on 2009-07-24 04:22:11

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Poster: Video-Cellar Date: Jul 23, 2009 9:47pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Dungeon of Harrow?

Yes, something went wrong in the copy and paste. It should have been in the OK list. I corrected it.

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Poster: cosmicola Date: Jul 23, 2009 10:23pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Dungeon of Harrow?

Thanks. that title just looked out of place to me is all.

Too bad Pat Boyette's other genre film The Weird Ones is considered lost, the negative and prints destroyed in a fire. Come to think of it, his war movie No Man's Land is a rarity as well.

B-movie trivia.

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Poster: Fact_Checker Date: Jul 23, 2009 4:32pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Making sure what's PD

"My Son the Vampire" and "Dark Eyes of London" are British films. Consider British copyright law before assuming that they're public domain; my recollection is that "My Son the Vampire" has been established as under copyright.

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Poster: Video-Cellar Date: Jul 23, 2009 5:37pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Making sure what's PD

You are right re "My Son the Vampire". However, The film on the list is "Dead Eyes of London" which is a German 'krimi' remake of "The Dark Eyes of London"/"Human Monster". While it is also still under copyright, its a different film.